Still three years after Canada (the Brits plan to be out by 2015 but only “based on success on the ground”):
Franco Frattini, Italy’s foreign minister said its 3,400 troops will have left the country by 2014.
The Italian decision follows the withdrawal of Dutch troops earlier this year and the Canadian decision to leave next year, as commanders struggle to sure up an alliance which is still short of troops…
…summer 2011 for the start of a gradual drawdown of troops, with the intention of completing it by 2014,” he told an Italian newspaper.
Barack Obama’s announcement that American troops will also begin returning in July 2011 has been criticised for giving the Taliban hope they can simply wait for Nato to leave.
The Nato mission is still short of several hundred soldiers to train the Afghan forces [more here, no help to be expected from our government] supposed to replace them and Nato officials have been trying to persuade alliance members to stop announcing withdrawal dates.
And in the meantime the Italians are considering getting more aerially robust than us–our government has never even been willing to deploy our CF-18s:
Italy considers bombings after Afghan deaths
The defence minister said Sunday that he is considering authorizing bombings by Italian fighter jets in Afghanistan if Parliament backs the decision following the killing of four soldiers there.
Minister Ignazio La Russa told Sky TG24 TV Sunday that while Italy’s participation in the NATO mission in Afghanistan can’t change “from one day to the other,” its fighter jets must be able to bomb if necessary.
La Russa has withheld permission for aerial bombings in order to avoid mistakenly killing innocent civilians.
Four Italian soldiers died Saturday in a bomb and shooting attack on a convoy…
Update: Germans fighting in the north–in self-defence:
The Battle of Shahabuddin
Under Fire in Afghanistan’s Baghlan ProvinceOne German officer fights the Taliban alongside Afghan soldiers he can’t always count on, risking his life for a peace few Germans believe is possible. Germans have seen the largest battles since World War II in Baghlan Province, and their leader is more optimistic than most about the war…
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“I look the Afghans in the eyes every day. We have taken on a responsibility here,” says Andritzky, who has grown a beard for the mission. The Afghans like it, he says. He wears a checkered scarf around his neck, a gift from an Afghan soldier. “We can’t let the Afghans down, or else it’ll all have been in vain [emphasis added].”..
More on the north at the second part of this post.
Upperdate: The French, who do have a combat role, may be making progress:
FORWARD OPERATING BASE TORA, Afghanistan — Just east of Kabul lies a stark mountain moonscape that for centuries was home to gunmen who preyed on travelers and harassed invaders in the narrow mountain passes. As recently as last year, ambushes of NATO troops were not uncommon.
Now, the French soldiers responsible for the area say they believe that the situation has calmed so much that by next summer or even earlier, they would be comfortable handing primary responsibility for this district, Sarobi, in eastern Kabul Province, to Afghan troops.
“Of course this is a political decision, but the district of Sarobi could be transferred to Afghan control not later than the summer of 2011; I think even by February it could be ready,” said Brig. Gen. Pierre Chavancy, the commander of Task Force Lafayette [actually La Fayette], the French brigade in Afghanistan with 2,500 soldiers…
The French battalion commander in charge of Sarobi, Col. Jerome Goisque, whose Forward Operating Base Tora looks out across the mountains and whose soldiers patrol its valleys, is more reserved. He said it would probably not be possible for a foreign civilian to travel on the roads. “It is quiet, but sometimes you have ambushes or exchanges of fire,” he said. “But if we were not there it would be worse.”..
Naturally we see nothing about the Italians, Germans or French in our blinkered major media.
Mark
Ottawa



That last heading,”Italy Considers Bombing…..”, is why I despair of the Afghan situation.
Our soldiers are expected to fight with one hand tied behind their backs.
Our politicians need to reread the history books on WW2.and learn how to win and what it takes to win.
Negotiation: you negotiate BEFORE you go to war. Once you have proceeded to war, the end is victory,and only victory,and the military MUST be given free rein to do whatever is necessary to accomplish that end.
Let the enemy come to you when THEY have had enough,and THEN negotiations can resume, from a position of strength. It worked in WW2.
We have to trust our soldiers to NOT needlessly slaughter civilians and generally rape and pillage. I don’t think that’s a problem. Our politicians don’t trust the average soldier,they’ve made that pretty obvious. Maybe it’s the elite’s natural fear of anyone with a gun.
The “nervous nellies” in the political sphere make it damned near impossible for the soldiers to do the dirty work,and war IS dirty work.
Bring in the fighters!! After eight fucking years!? They should have been there from Day One!
I have never looked an Afghan in the eye but I read about what happens over there. Our troops are being handicapped by the ROEs they have and a seeming lack of effort by the host country after so many years to take over the defense of their own country. We should have bought our troops home yesterday. When everyone is on the same page and ready to go in and ASSIST them in the fight against the Taliban and do so no holds bared as a war should be fought then I believe we should go back. Anything less than those conditions is a waist of lives, resources and time.
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