Photo: Toronto Star
Not even a guilty confession by Canada’s most notorious poster boy for child soldiering can coax his ardent supporters to admit the now 24-year-old Omar Khadr is a terrorist and a war criminal. They still imagine him as the baby-faced teenager still splashed across the pages of some newspapers, led astray by a father who also, at one time, lay rotting inside a prison for charges of terrorism.
As Norman Spector reminds readers today, had Canadians not been playing the same game with the elder Khadr in 1996, all of this might have been avoided. Then, as today with Omar, the media shone a light on a dark hole that should have been the home for Ahmed Said Khadr until the end of his days. Reluctantly, Pakistan opened the prison doors and let the al-Qaeda operative return to Canada, where it is said he kissed the ground upon arrival.
What terrorist in his right mind — or as right as is possible for a deranged adherent of militant Islam — wouldn’t be enthralled to have Canadian citizenship? As I wrote in the National Post in August, Ahmed Said Khadr depended on the protection of the same laws of western civilization he aimed to destroy. He understood the fatalistic tendencies of our liberal society would also afford the strongest possible defence against the accusation.
Now that Omar Khadr is an admitted terrorist, his ticker tape homecoming to Canada may have to be subdued until he has served out his time in a federal penitentiary here. The Canadian government has agreed to the plea deal that hinges on Khadr’s admission he is everything he was accused of being: a murderer, a war criminal, and most relevantly a terrorist.
The media has consistently accused the government of refusing to intervene in the Khadr case, though it has been inconsistent in its condemnation of who is responsible. The attention on Khadr did not occur until well after the Liberals had left office, having done nothing to petition a cause they would later champion in opposition. Politics is nothing if not situationally convenient.
Nor did Khadr become a rallying cry for the anti-war movement until Canada’s role in Afghanistan escalated with its move to Kandahar province. The kinetic requirements of engagement with the Taliban resulted in the civilian casualties necessary to build a strawman of moral equivocation. Khadr is a mere extension of that fallacious argument.
You’ve heard the argument. It says he isn’t a terrorist who smilingly and willingly planted IEDs, terrorized locals, and attacked U.S. soldiers with the Taliban. It says he’s a victim of his father’s hateful ideology as much as the third world African child plucked from a village whose parents had been murdered, and forced into violent slavery.
Not that anybody ever discusses the hateful ideology of the elder Khadr. It’s something of a nebulous construct used to describe Omar’s psychology, but never taken to the logically proximate discussion on immigrants teaching their Canadian-born children seditious contempt for Canada. The conversation is brushed aside, often with a sneering rebuke directed at those who even suggest that any analysis of Canadian-born terrorist Omar Khadr should include an introspective on multiculturalism’s failures.
Such failures are self-evident in the prolific “Toronto 18″, with the latest sentencing of Fahim Ahmad for his role in the 2006 plot to attack Ontario’s capital city. His sentence seems commensurate with Omar Khadr’s: 16 years in prison. By the time Khadr is finished his 9th year in Guantanamo Bay he will be repatriated to Canada to serve out the seven remaining years of his sentence. 16 years.
Those who claimed that Omar Khadr’s incarceration was unjust need only look to the final analysis. The admitted murderer, war criminal and terrorist will serve only 16. Even if he does serve all seven in Canada — and nobody believes he will — he would emerge from prison a 31-year-old. He will still have two thirds of his life remaining to make amends for his terrible betrayal of his country.
Omar Khadr has admitted he was an “alien, unprivileged, enemy belligerent,” unqualified to engage in combat hostilities with U.S. or other coalition forces in Afghanistan. He has also admitted guilt for “murder in violation of the laws of war,” and his membership in al-Qaeda.
Let the child soldier misnomer die today, and hereafter let the man be known by his admissions. And let the adult Omar Khadr begin the post-confessional part of his penance.
Wow, well written!
Thanks. I get really worked up on this subject.
Hm. I’m currently running a poll asking who’s worse, Omar Khadr or Russell Williams. So far Mr. Williams is about 3 to 1.
I’d have to go with Williams as well.
I get worked up about this subject as well and the latest chant, implying that his hand was forced, is going to raise my bp.
If he was innocent, let him remain principled and prove it. He isn’t and he couldn’t.
I also don’t believe there is a professional alive that can rehabilitate an individual this indoctrinated.
Perhaps it is his parents fault but he made choices because of that upbringing and I believe he will continue to do so.
If he refuses that first visit and every subsequent attempt from his ranting Mommy and sister, then I will step back and retract my position. Until then, I sense a full blown animal will be actively stalking on Canadian soil.
Phantom Observer @7:55pm
If the famous picture of Khadr holding the butchered limbs was out there in the public on a regular basis, I’m not sure that poll would be quite so positive for him.
I’m a female and I still think Khadr is more of a sadistic monster and threat than Williams.
Perhaps the fact that the Williams case was concluded and disposed of quickly plays into that opinion?
I don’t think enough attention is given to the fact that it was Prime Minister Chretien’s pleas that led to the father being released back to Canada. Had it not been for Chretien,the father would have no further influence over his family and likely the son would never have gone to Afghanistan.
I remember distinctly the ranting, rabid, vile spew his veiled mother and sister gave in an interview years ago regarding the OTHER men in this ‘family’… how their martyrdom-based pride and honour was equated to their religious/zealot strength hatred, enough encouragement that every ‘man’ in that family hid behind Canadas skirtfold when they scampered back from illegally warring and murdering other people in other countries. Dont let lil pretend abused omar fool you, they all have been caught on tape at one time or other proving beyond a doubt how deeply hostile and religiously hateful this entire family is, enough to enjoy murder, warring and killing as shown by Omar in the captured IED making video.
whether it be a gagged nation of news agencies or really good islamic lawyers here, there has been nary a peep from that ‘family’ of defects ever since that hit the national airwaves… its all been about perceived ‘child injustice’…gotta be atleast a decade or two now come to think of it… why the cone of protective silence???
That entire terrorist supporting family, along with that bottom feeder Ebney, should be kicked out and permanently banned from this country.
Wonder how ‘good’ the unemployed-yet-well-off-professional special interest lobbyists feel NOW about having backed a liar, proven murderer, and terrorist.
“Now that Omar Khadr is an admitted terrorist,”
Adrian, if at 15 I stuck you in a prison like Gitmo, without charge or trial, for 8 years, subjected you to torture then put you into a kangaroo court where anonymous, hearsay and evidence extracted through torture was admissible, I could get you to plead guilty to the Kennedy Assassination.
Hell, if given the choice of “plead guilty or we keep you here forever” YOU would admit being in Al Queda.
I find it telling that your hatred of Muslims and your fear of terrorism are so great that not only are you prepared to toss the Charter in the garbage, you are also prepared to put a torch to the Magna Carta as well.
“I remember distinctly the ranting, rabid, vile spew his veiled mother and sister gave in an interview years ago regarding the OTHER men in this ‘family’…”
Funny, last time I checked we still had the rule of law, wherein one is convicted of crimes they actually commit, in a fair and open court with fair rules of evidence, not for the horrible words or actions of other people in their family or friends.
Shall I quote Martin Niemöller now or shall we just take this as read?
If Khadr is the type of “justice” we could expect if the Cons ever got a majority then this country is well and truly lost.
Mike…you have been reading far too many comic books….you have fallen for the left wing version of what happened.
Open your eyes and ears man! Grow up!
Khadar is no more a “victim” than Pickton, Williams or Bernardo.
And where were your demands and your outcry against that “hellhole” you describe prior to 2006???
Yeah, thought so. Sheesh
Oh and sweetie, that type of “justice” is the dumbed down, kow towing to left wing demands. The kind of justice I would like would be to see sweet little Omar spend every last day of his life in jail or better yet….get the same kind of justice that he wishes on you, Mike.
BTW – Adrian….this skillfully written post was one of your best and it needs to be reprinted over and over and over. People like Mike have their heads in the sand crying over poor Khadar.
I am sure that Khadar’s lawyers want to keep that perception going as with each tear that falls as a story is written, another dollar gets added to the “pay Khadar for his pain and suffering” fund.
Dear lord AG, that bile you spew is not getting any more coherent over time.
Mike was totally correct, and I suspect you and everyone else here knows that. Here we have a boy charged with murder and terrorism, facing life in prison without parole, imposed by a country where life in prison without parole is routinely ordered for murder, and where sentences of 30+ years is routinely granted for lesser offences. And yet, this nefarious outlaw gets a grand total of 16 years.
Yeah, sure sounds like the authorities were totally certain they could prove his guilt. No one in his right mind would turn down that deal.
I agree that since he has plead guilty he gets the label of terrorist and murderer. The problem for you and yours, however, is that the circumstances of his imprisonment and of the “trial” will always leave open the question of his guilt. He would not be the first person in the world to plead guilty to something he did not do in order to avoid a more serious sentence. I recall a few men in the US who plead guilty to murder in order to avoid the death penalty who were later exonerated when DNA testing was perfected.
But here is a question for you. Do your children follow the belief system you instilled in them as children? If not, at what point did they say “no mom, you are a right wing wing nut and I am an intelligent, independent human being so I cannot buy into that crap”. I have been around enough teenagers to know they are always, without exception, a product of the people who raised them.
Now I know you are smart enough to know this, even though you will refuse to admit it.
Oh look, 27% of false convictions resulted in a false confession or guilty plea!
http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/In_250th_DNA_Exoneration_Nationwide_New_York_Man_Is_Proven_Innocent_33_Years_After_Wrongful_Conviction_for_Rape.php
Why would you do that? Was I working with the Taliban in Afghanistan to murder civilians and was I caught in an airbase trying to pitch grenades at U.S. forces?
What a peculiar accusation. Why would I have just gone to Afghanistan to put my own life in danger for a country and a people I care nothing about? For a people I despised? Don’t be silly. That doesn’t make any sense at all.
Fortunately with the guilty confession I don’t think we’ll ever have to fork over any money to the pity party.
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The father is long gone but shouldn’t we be hauling Khadr’s mother’s ass into court for her negligence in raising this little monster. Certainly she has to take some responsibility since she was well aware of what Omar and her husband were up to in Afghanistan. I don’t mind seeing my money go to a court case on this since I will feel very good that she and her family haven’t pulled one over on me and other Canadian taxpayers.
sadly ‘Mike’ is a waste of your time A.Girl…he spouts foolishness because he cant answer to facts he doesnt know about, obfuscates because he has chosen to stay ignorant of this wingnut and the recorded history of that clan of terrorists that bred him….
I bet he thinks the Toronto 18 was actually an amusement ride… we live in igloos… there cant be such a thing as a ‘child terrorist murderer’ from Canada…. I bet he has never seen the FULL videos of preteen jihadii trainees completely sawing the head off a bound test subject. Its the most revolting thing Ive ever seen; I can tell you they were fascinated by it all, took turns sawing away on the guys neck, and not one barfed or flinched like i almost did watching… dedicated, hardened, indoctrinated zealot murderers are hard to read and can fool you, it looks like.
IF he was tortured for years as pretended, AND he was innocent, he would have caved in the first hour… much sooner than a known felon or murderer… innocent people cave in first and rant out anything, thats just expected…so it begs the question ‘was he tortured at all? (no)…or maybe ‘omar was tortured on the day he changed his plea?’ (also no)
everyone inc. mike bought into the propaganda that he is an uneducated, abused dupe forced to make those IED’s (while smiling for the camera) and could barely write his own name (contradicts his written ‘hopelessness’ letter from earlier this year), not only that but he won by the mere fact he has manipulated the justice system to escape any real justice he would face in the states, for the luxury confines of a limp wristed Canadian justice system…. (everyone knows once he gets here and plays his con game for the parole board, he will get away with it again….)
Thanks in great part to his disgusting excuse of a lawyer who coached him all this time, no doubt… the same one who got front page banner headlines in the E.Journal stating how the govt. AND citizens of Canada were all guilty of failing Omar… he can shove his words up his sunshine hole, that arrogant *$&#
Mike refuses to make Omar accountable, and doesnt bother to connect the dots to the terrorist supporting family as a source of the terrorist’s indoctrination as well…so if Omar isnt guilty, and his rabidly violent family isnt a source of this, then naturally the remaining villian must be…OUR SELVES…ohhhh yes A.Girl, you and I threw that grenade.
Instead of not commenting on what he isnt aware of, he spouts wispy fairy intellectual idealism to mask the fact how clueless he is…ya, thats the ticket… high society ignorance is just what we need in what is really a simple case of murder, terrorism and international conviction…
And for a boy who is so ‘badly abused, neglected and persecuted’, he sure smiles alot … hmmm, think an accomplished liar could have possibly made up all that dog attack, rape and beatings crap? oh not pure omar, no no… those sliced off limbs he played with were actually only halloween props used by the taliban, as well… Mike there sucked it all up with fine affect… kudos to the special interest groups whining for this murderer’s absolution too….
the downfall of western society will be its neurotic, self flagellating nit picking that Mike and others manically wallow in, I swear
Gayle…
I know that you think that I am stupid, but maybe you will listen to someone who has the credentials to actually know what Khadar is.
“Omar Khadr is a “highly dangerous” prodigal son of a leaderless family of jihadists waiting for his return to continue his war on the west, according to a celebrity psychiatrist who testified for the prosecution in Khadr’s sentencing hearing here Tuesday.
Dr. Michael Welner said Khadr was “highly dangerous” and a leader among the hardened jihadists he is detained here with.”
So dear Gayle, at least I am smart enough to know a con artist when I see one…which is more than I can say for you.
Perhaps you want to volunteer to have him stay at your house, heck even stay in your neighbourhood. After all, he is just a poor misunderstood boy, right?
Wow AG.
Way to totally ignore my point in order to make the same point you have made over and over and over again.
Not that I am surprised.
I would much rather reread her points more than once than your irrelevant tripe any day, innocenceproject.org crap included.
He confessed… he lied… he put himself in harms way and he successfully sucked a lot of simpletons into believing fallacy, with the help of his bottom feeding lawyer no doubt.
“When asked what he was most proud of in his life, he said conducting the operations against the Americans.”
“He said when he first arrived at Guantanamo, thinking about killing an American would make him feel better”
swap a few simpletons’ names in place of “Americans” in his statements, and I would smile.
Heh.
It just hurts so much when the ill informed do not like what I have to say.
ha ha ha ha ha
Im sure your proud of yourself. Not everyone can be as mentally incoherent, that must have taken you no time at all to master. Next time I want to entertain the thought of dealing with a 5 year old, I will make sure to look up your comments for a real good chuckle.
Gayle…..
I know you wouldn’t be caught dead reading the Sun so I will provide a link for you so you can read it online… maybe you will want to do it in the privacy of your own home where you can hide the fact that you are actually reading something in that vile, disgusting rag.
http://www.torontosun.com/news/columnists/joe_warmington/2010/10/26/15839626.html
You take comments and twist them and turn them every which way and then go off on some tangent about how we just don’t know what we are talking about.
Well dear Gayle, I would rather be one of the many, many Canadians that can see the world clearly – can see what is right and what is wrong than one that hides in the halls of so called – higher learning – and yet learns nothing at all.
I am sick and tired of your continual rude and condescending remarks to me. I have just as much right to make my thoughts known as you have to make yours. You are not going to change anyone’s mind Gayle, just as we are not going to change yours. The only thing we can do is continually point out how introverted your thinking is. You obviously are not able to see that most criminals PLEAD INNOCENCE from the day they are caught. Even with video evidence of them professing their hate, professing their glee at killing do those on the left – like you Galye, continue to promote that they are just misunderstood. Then you have the audacity to suggest that his guilty plea was “forced” – yeah forced by his lawyer who saw a way of saving him from certain justice by getting him back to our lax Canadian justice system.
Gayle – I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry that you obviously never learned that there are consequences to every action. When you kill someone, you need to be put in jail. You need your rights taken away and you need to be treated like the low life you are.
I know you are of the mind that no criminal should have to spend time in jail, they should all go to therapy and then they will be fine. That is a crock Gayle and I am sick and tired of your socialist clap trap continually suggesting it.
Go away Gayle.
BTW, I see Omar might be coming to Edmonton to maybe you will get your chance to give him a hug and turn him into the upstanding young man he is in your mind.
Good luck with that, Gayle.
Heh.
I read the first couple of lines, but then I realized it was not a news article but rather an opinion – one that I presume happens to agree with your world view. I am sure I could link to opinions that agree with mine too. Big deal. Though it is interesting that you have to link to opinion pieces rather than fact based articles.
“I am sick and tired of your continual rude and condescending remarks to me.”
Someone who prefaces every comment she makes to me and anyone else she disagrees with by calling that person “sweetie” cannot complain about others being condescending – unless you want to be exposed as a hypocrite that is.
“I would rather be one of the many, many Canadians that can see the world clearly – can see what is right and what is wrong than one that hides in the halls of so called – higher learning – and yet learns nothing at all.”
And yet yesterday you were quoting one of those people who “hides in the halls of higher learning”. I guess that is OK if they agree with your point. In any event, I am well educated but left university almost 20 years ago. Now I deal directly with the people you know nothing about but still feel free to condemn with your uneducated biased opinions.
I laugh at you AG. I really do. You really seem completely oblivious to the fact that I am the one speaking from experience and knowledge, and you are not.
“You obviously are not able to see that most criminals PLEAD INNOCENCE from the day they are caught.”
OOO look. AG is avoiding the facts and missing the point, yet again.
See the facts are that the result of this guilty plea is a total sentence of 16 years – for murder and terrorism. Pretty damn cushy deal for a monster.
I don’t know if he is guilty or if he is innocent. That is the point. No one can truly know based on this guilty plea in the circumstances in which it was tendered. I know you hate facts and reality, but the truth is the US has a history of people making false confessions and pleading guilty to things they did not do in order to receive a lighter sentence. No matter how much you wail and cry, that is inescapable.
This guilty plea settles nothing. No matter how much you really really want it to.
“I feel sorry that you obviously never learned that there are consequences to every action. When you kill someone, you need to be put in jail. You need your rights taken away and you need to be treated like the low life you are.
I know you are of the mind that no criminal should have to spend time in jail, they should all go to therapy and then they will be fine. That is a crock Gayle and I am sick and tired of your socialist clap trap continually suggesting it.
When have I ever said that? Oh, that’s right – never. Now you are resorting to making stuff up. When you have to do that to make your point, it generally means you do not have one.
Grow up AG. Seriously.
“I don’t know if he is guilty or if he is innocent”
And my point is made that you don’t SEE the facts right in front of you.
There are tapes, there are videos, there are eye witnesses and there are expert opinions as to his “state of mind”. And still you waffle.
Sigh…..go away Gayle.
Are there tapes of him killing someone? If there are then this would have been settled a long time ago, doncha think?
Facts AG. Actual, real RELEVANT facts.
But way to totally ignore the rest. Speaking of being accountable, care to apologize for lying about what you “know” I believe?
You mistake the fact that ‘gayle’ doesnt really care… about anything…. she gets off on pretending she is ‘something’, and rubbing that something in your face.
“Due justice, compassion and innocence” are all just catchwords she uses to pee her opinions around this topic with. It wouldnt matter if omar personally walked up to people like her and tried to convince them he actually did it, AS HE IS SAYING IN COURT, they still cover their eyes and ears and repeat “blahblahblah I CANT HEAR YOU YOU SWEET THING. YOU REALLY DIDNT KILL ANYONE I JUST KNOW IT” at the tops of their lungs.
lets all do the ‘lets have compassion for omar’ thing again shall we?
Lets all imagine him an ooey gooey innocent, in spite of him telling us all he just snowed us all these years, and in spite of the fact he says he delights in the fact he murdered atleast one American that he knows of, and despite the fact he enjoyed playing with those dead mans hands in photo and on tape, and lets all blame that on a long since dead father shall we?
Lets all just pretend he caved in to escape justice, that he wasnt really admitting guilt, merely pleading guilty, in spite of his own highly detailed accounting for each charge he admitted to. Funny how someone who once maintained he didnt know anything about the charges he faced, suddenly knows so much more evidence about those charges than what was leaked out before his trial almost happened. Nice of the bottom feeders to allow all this evidence in the safety of knowing it can never be used against him to make him serve a conviction. Confession without torture, just as I suspected. Confessing it all to disbelieving worshippers.
yes, compassion….while we are at it lets not believe omars facts on the matter, only our fantasyland, do no wrong facts will do thank you.
Lets not waste our compassion on the limb-less murdered man omar was desecrating after he was killed. Its not sick and not a crime to apparently desecrate a body…well it is here actually but who knows ‘over there’?
Lets not waste our compassion on the Medic, whose compassion and oath he swore included patching up this sorry turd of a Canadian terrorist, and got murdered for it. Omar said he did it and described how it happened, but lets not let that get in the way of a good story shall we. Big bad medic aiding wounded omar… all military men are big mean liars too… nothing they say can be trusted especially around little boys and judges.
Lets not waste our compassion on the families of only these two men he clearly participated in eliminating, and ignore the unknown numbers he might have killed with those IEDs he made. Those families should hurt like hell and be made to feel as miserable as possible for even hoping for any form of justice, and for accepting Omar’s NON TORTURED ADULT confession of the events he caused. Yes to hell with the victims, they are faking it, its all Omar all the time.
“Not even a guilty confession by Canada’s most notorious poster boy for child soldiering can coax his ardent supporters to admit the now 24-year-old Omar Khadr is a terrorist and a war criminal.”
Remember this quote? Gayle isnt only one of them, she wants to bare his children, he is just so precious and awesome. god help us all…a better god than khadr’s hopefully.
Ha ha ha
I know people like you know I am right when you start making stuff up to justify why you pretend you think I am wrong.
Thanks!
As uncomfy I am about entertaining this topic, I would vote for Khadr, not just because he’s successfully proven his competence as a liar (Mr. Williams failed readily at that aspect) and manipulator of the facts of his murderous past, but because Mr. Williams is and acted as one man alone.
Omar is all Williams was and so much more, and well practised, indoctrinated, patterned, inbred one as well. He is a threat – - “worse” by the context of this ‘vote’ – - on many more levels combined than the very narrow and predictable one Mr. Williams fronts.
If the remaining ‘unknowns’ of Omar does not bother you, it should. He has proven to be a top A student in all the evil he has studied and practised that we KNOW ABOUT. Not to trivialize the crimes but omar’s sickness doesn’t extend to raping women, yet all the other warped evils of this woebegone is inclusive of of women, children, beliefs, governance and so many many more potential targets. He is as easily an equal threat to you women who will no doubt get indignant at my pointing that out… just not the same manner of threat Williams was.
His counterpart in this ‘competition’ is being and will be dissected to the point of detriment of his family, friends and relatives… no holds barred, stone unturned, realm unexplored. Thats 25 years for the citizens to maintain indignation, fascination and some day find categorization as to what Williams is about.
The fad of the day appears to be making Mr. Williams out to be something much much larger than he really is, with respect to his crimes. Perhaps its actually in order to use him for grudge-venting in order to bash the government, men as a whole or the military, maybe we should liquidate the entire Air Force akin to the Somalia Affair’s eradication of our Airborne, is that a suitable knee jerk reaction for all out there? The unreasonable empowerment of his categorization has gotten tiring to dwell on… he is not that ‘rock star’, honest.
Mr. Williams does not represent a sickness in the military nor seems to infer an unseen evil in the military, at no time did he ever represent the gender of Men as a whole (sure as hell does not speak or represent ME and my attitudes towards women…), nor can it be concluded he holds a belief system and ideology that is a major threat home grown right inside our own military.
He is only a singular man, finally caught having done horrific and disgusting crimes, chasing a self-centred and self-serving lust, not for the benefit of others or ideology, but because he is truly a sick man. He might actually be able to be reformed over the years, who knows.
Khadr, I am not so confident about…
Weak. Try harder.
I dont just think you are wrong, you have proven it all on your own. Congrats.
I thought openly and physically supporting the Tamil Tigers was recently banned in canada, guess not so if its a known terrorist organization like Al Q. Omar’s extremist mother openly raved about this on camera… one of those ‘religious rights protection’ things guards her, Im guessing….
Hope she isnt going to ‘physically’ support them by grunting out more Omars, god help us all if so (not Omars god either)
Which is totally why you do not respond to my comment but indulge yourself in some creative writing when you make up my position and then “argue” against it, right?
Nice try though.
ha ha ha
Gayle, do you actually belive the silly garbage you’ve been saying, or are you just trying to make people who think Khadr is an innocent abused baby look stupid? If so, bravo! you’re doing an excellent job.
Khadr is a murderous terrorist. A sadistic jihadist. SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO SEE “INFIDELS” ELIMINATED.
Open your eyes. You are sanctioning the murder of truly innocent people.
Hard to say…I think Khadr is probably more dangerous. Although Williams is a disgusting pervert, Khadr, as a sadistic terrorist bent on eliminating all so-called infidels, is worse.
Maybe he is guilty, maybe he is not, I don’t know. But I would like to know why if a sixteen year old boy from Afghanistan throws a grenade and kills an American soldier it’s terrorism, while if an American soldier kills a civilian not only is it not terrorism, but its not heard of.
*Groan*
and you are doing what exactly? got any more H or A keys there to pointlessly type out, for lack of having anything factual or important to say? Hypocrite, much? Oh right, the One who claims Im making ‘stuff up’ but cant actually prove it…the one who believes khadr is still innocent regardless of his own unpressured confession detailing exactly how he murdered.
Too bad there isnt a prepubescent age limit in place here, then we all could benefit from not having to scroll past your incessantly juvenile ‘lol’ing’ over a seriously UNFUNNY topic. Not only wrong as you’ve proven before, but ignorantly derogatory with the subject matter too… you just cant help but wrack up the neg. points.
Grow up, if at all possible.
“Oh right, the One who claims Im making ’stuff up’ but cant actually prove it..”
Really? Are you actually suggesting I have to prove that I do not want to “bare” his children?
And you tell ME to grow up.
Ha ha ha.
Hmm, and here I thought it was up to the State to PROVE guilt not the other way around. Even if he did kill a soldier, isn’t that what soldiers are supposed to do? How is it different from an American soldier killing an Afghani fighter, especially since the US invaded that country.
That Omar was tortured is well documented and not in doubt at all. It is yet another black mark on American society. Take a look at some world newspapers and read what other people in the world think of American (in)justice!
How about you just learn how to read.
All I am saying is that the circumstances in which this guilty plea were tendered means that you cannot be certain he plead guilty just because by doing so his sentence would be much shorter than if he went to trial (and if you did not figure that out before Sunday, you surely should have figured it out since then).
Pleads guilty and gets 8 years. Goes to a trial and gets at least an additional 32 years.
It really is not that hard if you are willing to think outside of your narrow little world.
PS Gross mis-statements like accusing me of sanctioning murder are just, well, stupid. It just proves you do not have any intelligent argument to make.
“*Groan*” = Everone knows this but we cannot say out loud that it is called double standards.
oh my comment seemed to have disappeared…
“*Groan*” = Everyone knows what your saying is the truth but we can’t say out loud that this is called double standards